Overpopulated animal count!!

mash · Joined: 27 Feb 2007 Posts: 2683

Some of these are just staggering. It just goes to show that hardly anybody (except a small handfull) are responsible breeders. Crying or Very sad

Belgian Hares - Was 232 NOW 222
Weimeraner Dog - Was 51 NOW46
Sphynx Cat - Was 297 NOW264
Warrior Cat - Was 48 NOW45
GSMD* - Was 81 NOW96
BHMSS** - Was 293 NOW288
Hell Hound - Was 122 NOW124
Shetland Sheepdog - Was 51 NOW48
Crabbet Arabian Horse - Was 276 NOW304
Paint Horse - Was 464 NOW537
Pappilion Dog - Was 50 NOW64
Naga (Myth) - Was 21 NOW36
American Saddlebred Horse - Was 204 NOW248
Nova Scotia DuckTolling Retriever Dog - Was 51 NOW48
Angel Ferret - Was 71 NOW61
Gypsy Drum Horse - Was 150 NOW162
Indochinese Tiger - Was 564 NOW600
Shuiba Inu Dog - Was 150 NOW177
Hanoverian Horse - Was 138 NOW177
Royal Wolf - Was 63 NOW41
Eclipse (colour) Wolf - Was 47 NOW32
Kuvasc Dog - Was 152 NOW145
Scottish Fold Cat - Was 306 NOW277
D*S Norweigian Forest Cat - Was 183 NOW165
Smooth Coat Guinea Pig - Was 169 NOW169
Hairless Guinea Pig - Was 940 NOW968
Friesian Horse - Was 70 NOW103
Paso Fino Horse - Was 82 NOW86
Shagya Arabian Horse - Was 117 NOW[b]183

*GSMD = Greater Swiss Mountain Dog
**BHMSS = Blackhills Mountain Shilo Shepherd

Please, please, please consider other people whan breeding these animals. A lot have been made with REAL money.

If you get a "Mis breed" (something you didn't want) Then release instead of adding to the population. Thanks so much.

~This was last updated on the 9th Feb 09. Last count was in August 08.~

mash · Joined: 27 Feb 2007 Posts: 2683

Jinxx · Joined: 28 Nov 2006 Posts: 1906

It's really bad when no one even counts the Pasos and Friesians anymore. I kick myself every day for not making them AEs. Sad

mash · Joined: 27 Feb 2007 Posts: 2683

Hey Jinxx (long time no speak). I will deffinatly add those to the list. And if anybody else has any Threatened, Endangered or AE animals/colours they think should be added to the list then PLEASE, let me know. I will try to update the list often to show progress (or lack of it as it seems at the mo) Smile

mash · Joined: 27 Feb 2007 Posts: 2683

Updated with the additional horses requested by Jinxx.

keema · Joined: 15 Mar 2007 Posts: 951

Just a question that suddenly occurred to me. How many in the game constitutes an overbred breed? For Thr? End? AE? Just curious were we are setting the bar or if its based on something else.

mash · Joined: 27 Feb 2007 Posts: 2683

Basically it's what people think are too over bred. I mean, I know that if there were over 20 of one of my AE creations I'd be extremely upset.

A lot does all depend on the creator also. If the creator of the breed is not happy that their special creations are being over bred then it is added to our list

Tanitsja · Joined: 28 Mar 2007 Posts: 1174

dont really help to only work on the sales market, the people who do it not all are aware of the problem, and with avaliable often quite cheap studs its an easy logical drawment to breed to try and sell a rarer animal for lots of money

so in adition you migth want to try for the breeds the creator want down, to try convince the people who sell stud services to end these Confused

singapura btw have some 159 if i counted rigth

also could the list be made aphabetical so its easier to find a variation or color on it?

and how is the ragdoll project coming along?

mash · Joined: 27 Feb 2007 Posts: 2683

Tanitsja, messages have been going out to stud owners as well as people selling them. I would just like to point out though that I'm doing this pretty much single handedly at the moment and after all I DO work.

I understand what you're saying and will try to get the list done alphabetically but it wont happen over night.

As for the Ragdoll's.....well....people just keep on breeding more and more no matter HOW many times I PM them....

A. L. Aljan · Joined: 28 Nov 2006 Posts: 661

mash, you're friggin' AWESOME for doing this! Very Happy

Did we ever come up with a form letter to send to people who are studding for too low or overbreeding? If so, let me know so we can pass it on to other members... I'd like to post a letter like yours and let everyone in the club edit so we get it PERFECT, and then I think every member should choose to "safeguard" a couple of the breeds/colors/details that the members suggest. Each person would kind of adopt a few of these and be their "guardian", watching them on the market and sending out the form letter when needed (signed "Concerned Member of the A.F. Ethical Breeders Association") and reporting back on this thread on this forum... what do you think?

I'd like to get back into the groove of getting something accomplished, as I've been, frankly, SLACKING. Embarassed

I just want to make sure that what we send is worded very, very carefully so as not to offend, but, rather, educate. Know what I mean?

~ Amanda @ Aljan

Tanitsja · Joined: 28 Mar 2007 Posts: 1174

wasnt trying to critique...and hey here it is..sometimes all it needs is some puter magic, excel can sort it alphabetical on 2 secs i just recaled, so i did it for you Wink

also edited in a couple counts i did

Angel Ferret ... Was 74 ... Now 72
Belgian Hares ... Was 235 ...Now 242
BHMSS* ... Was 274 ... Now 292 (whats going wrong?)
Crabbet Arabian ...Was 247 ... Now 276
D*S Norweigan Forest Cat ... 183 --now 171
Eclipse (colour) Wolf ... Was 44 ... Now 44
Friesians ... 70
GSMD* ... Was 58 ... Now 66
Gypsy Drum ... Was 100 ... Now 144
Hairless G'Pig ... 940 !!! (OMG) --now 853
Hanovarian ... Was 118 ... Now 124
Hell Hound ... Was 119 ... Now 120 -- now 113
Indochinese ... Was 536 ... Now 528
Kuvasc ... Was 163 ... Now 150
Naga (myth) ... Was 36 ... Now 33 (slight improvement)
Nova Scotia ... Was 49 ... Now 46
Paint Horse ... Was 323 ... Now 434
Pappilions ... Was 48 ... Now 50 -- now 47
Paso Fino ... (approx) 82
Ragdoll cat .. --335
Royal wolves ... Was 58 ... Now 60 --now 59
Saddlebred Horse ... Was 194 ... Now 192
Scottish Fold ... Was 273 ... Now 286
Shetland Sheepdog ...Was 51 ... Now 54
Shiba Inu ... Was 170 ... Now ... 146
Smooth Coat G'Pig ... 169
Sphynx Cats ... Was 288 ... Now 292 (shakes head) -- now 274
Warrior Cats ... Was 39 ... Now 47 -- now 45
Weimeraner ... Was 57 ... Now 52 (slightly better)

mash · Joined: 27 Feb 2007 Posts: 2683

Thankies Tanitsja I'm glad to see that SOME of the breeds numbers have deteriorated (cant spell lol) a little

And Amanda...I havn't actually got a standard pm I send out I just tend to write it there and then. But I totally agree that we need some sort of structured messaging and responses....Let me have a think.

Tanitsja · Joined: 28 Mar 2007 Posts: 1174

well i am finaly maping my cat bed content, most cats are rarity 5 or above, and where i thougth i had only 1 speciment i had up to 4, so releasing the ones i dont need before going through my stock and reproduce it (as most my cats now are 9 years or older)

i think that maybe a lot of people are in that situation based on just loosing oversigth between old missbreeds or whatnot that ended up laying around

so maybe one general advice would be to collecters to take the time to clean out their enclosures Confused

SarahCun · Joined: 12 Apr 2008 Posts: 266

Glad to see the changes in Sphynxes and D*S Norwegians! I am very fond of cats:] I made a board about this earlier, but maybe someone can help me here. I'm trying to get 1 of each type of cat that is Th., End., or A.E. in breed and/or colour, but I have to breed a bit to do that. Sometimes I get misbreds. I came up with the solution that for every misbred breed I will sterilize and give to a new player one and release all the rest from then on. So, I'm helping new players but also sterilizing so a new player who knows nothing about breeding will not over breed. Is this a good idea or should I release them all?

DesertBreesze · Joined: 30 May 2008 Posts: 455

Well saw that and am shocked myself. Makes me nervous about inserting species and some variations I wanted into the game unless they become overbred! God forbid any would become overpopulated!