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Drmchaser



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 14, 2009 2:25 pm    Post subject: Cloud- Wild Stallion of the Rockies Reply with quote

I just saw this documentary on a horse named Cloud, the story starts when Cloud is a foal and follows him through adulthood, it is an amazing story and really brings into the light the plight of these beautiful wild horses. There is also a sequel to the story called Clouds Legacy-The wild Stallion returns and a third one called Cloud-Challange of the Stallions planned to air OCT 2009. For those of you who have not seen this series, I highly recommend it. There are also Breyer horse statues of Cloud and his family, Sitka, Boulder and another colt. You can see these documentaries here.

http://www.pbs.org/wnet/nature/episodes/cloud-wild-stallion-of-the-rockies/introduction/29/

Apparently the Bureau of Land Management is trying to destroy Cloud and his herd. Check out this site for ideas and ways that we can help this magnificent wild herd and stop the BLM from destroying them, wild horses are a large part of our history.

http://www.thecloudfoundation.org/home.html


For anyone getting the idea of creating these horses, I am already planning on doing it, please do not steal my idea. However offers to help with the creations will be considered.
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lorraine



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 14, 2009 6:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

oh my goodness!! I met this lady at this fair thing called equine affair who for a living photographs his herd! that's awesome I will have to watch the documentaries!
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Drmchaser



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 14, 2009 10:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That is so neat Lorraine, I would love to see Cloud and his family in person, he is a magnificent and beautiful horse.
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Cecelia



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 9:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just read that the Bureau of Land Managements meeting is today. Yikes!!! I'm praying that everything goes in Cloud's favor and for all other wild horses out there. Unfortunately freedom will never be free.
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Drmchaser



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 2:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh I know, I feel like I know Cloud from watching the documentaries and I for one would be heartbroken if they killed him. I can understand controlling the numbers so they don't starve to death but why kill them? It's not right.
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koneko



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 3:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I love those movies! I watched all of them. I cant wait for the next one. I like how these raise wild horse awareness and show how we can help them. I would hate if they kill Cloud and his family.
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Bezzella



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 4:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Drmchaser wrote:
I can understand controlling the numbers so they don't starve to death but why kill them? It's not right.


What would you prefer for number control? Poofing to magical fairyland?

That is the problem with the whole situation is that there is no solution. With the rising price of hay and the falling value of horses, people are NOT looking for untrained, unvetted horses that still cost money.

One of my favorite solutions is the one that involves troubled youths and wild horses. The kids from juvy train the horses and sell them when the horses are trained. It is almost therapuetic for the kids too.

My overall point is that you shouldn't be whining about this massive issue when you don't know both sides and you aren't doing anything at all to help.
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Cosmosxx



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 4:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bezzella wrote:
Drmchaser wrote:
I can understand controlling the numbers so they don't starve to death but why kill them? It's not right.


What would you prefer for number control? Poofing to magical fairyland?

That is the problem with the whole situation is that there is no solution. With the rising price of hay and the falling value of horses, people are NOT looking for untrained, unvetted horses that still cost money.

One of my favorite solutions is the one that involves troubled youths and wild horses. The kids from juvy train the horses and sell them when the horses are trained. It is almost therapuetic for the kids too.

My overall point is that you shouldn't be whining about this massive issue when you don't know both sides and you aren't doing anything at all to help.



I think it's natural for humans to disagree with culling, and maybe your solution with the youths could work, but I do agree with Drmchaser, surely there are better ways?

Are you helping?
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Bezzella



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 5:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No I am not helping because I am unable. And also, as you can see from my post, I'm not whining about it either. I already ride and care for a rescued off the track thoroughbred and I don't have enough money to care for all the magical untrained, flearidden, nasty tempered mustangs that people can't seem to fully comprehend the situation of.

And if you can think of a better way to handle this issue, I would honestly be delighted. It is a huge issue and I truly do feel bad for the horses. ---


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Drmchaser



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 9:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, you know what? I am trying to help by trying to raise awareness of this issue. I am on a very limited budget, I have a very messed up back, I cannot work and I am trying for SSI, I live on 203.00 a month right now and if I could, I would be donating to help these horses. I don't appreciate being told that I don't know what's going on or that I don't know what I am doing, I posted this so people could watch the documentaries and possibly think of some ideas to help these horses. I am doing what I can, I didn't post this to get attacked, I have never done anything to you Bezzella and I don't appreciate it at all!
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Bezzella



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 10:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wouldn't call it a personal attack on you Drmchaser, I've held this opinion ever since I decided to get involved in it. I am sorry if I hurt anybody's feelings in expressing my personal view.

And I appologize for the last line in my second post, that was completely unncessary and I will remove it. Sometimes when I get in debates I generalize...
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Drmchaser



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 11:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you for the apology Bezella, I really do wish that there was more that I could do to help them. I read somewhere in the links that there is some celebrity or something that bought a huge amount of acreage and wants the wild horses to be moved to this private land. I hope that it's true because I don't want these horses to be killed. I prayed tonight for help for these horses. I just hope that my prayers will be answered in the way I hope they are.
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Cecelia



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 6:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am hoping that there is a solution. I know it seems hopeless but hey the mustang herd has been here long before most of us have. Why destroy them when they're just trying to live like us? I don't have a solution and at this point in my life probably can't help in any major way but when I can.... I will help them...... somehow...............
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Drmchaser



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 10:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well the meeting time has come and gone and I still don't know the results. I wish they would hurry up and post them. I have been praying that a better way comes along for these majestic animals.
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koneko



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 11:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got this email from the humane society

Dear Friend,
The U.S. House of Representatives will vote early Friday, July 17 on the Restoring Our American Mustangs (ROAM) Act (H.R. 1018). This is a critically important federal animal welfare bill that restores protections for wild horses and burros and prevents commercial sale and wholesale slaughter of these American icons.
Congress originally passed the Wild Free-Roaming Horse and Burro Act in 1971 to protect our wild horses, but in 2004 this protection was gutted in a midnight maneuver by then-Senator Conrad Burns (R-Mont.). Then the federal Bureau of Land Management said it would consider killing more than 30,000 horses in holding pens.
H.R. 1018 helps to save tax dollars by keeping our mustangs on the range and using innovative and humane management tools, such as fertility control. We need your help to restore vital protections for the majestic and beautiful symbol of our American West -- our mustangs.
TAKE ACTION
Please make an urgent phone call on Friday morning to your U.S. Representative to urge a 'YES' vote on H.R. 1018 to protect our nation's wild horses. Click here to look up your Representative and the phone number.
When you call, remember to leave your name and address so it is clear that you are a constituent. You can say:
"Hello, my name is [your name] and I live in [your town]. As a constituent, I urge Representative [last name] to VOTE YES on H.R. 1018, to protect our wild horses from slaughter, and set more humane wild horse management policies. This bill will save tax dollars as well as wild horses. I hope I can count on your support."
Time is short, and we need you to call right away. Thank you for your quick response, and for all you do for animals.
Sincerely,

Wayne Pacelle
President and CEO
The Humane Society of the United States
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