Overbreeding

[RZ]

well, I now understand better - someone has been breeding one of my Filas A LOT!

I realize that it is their choice to breed an animal, just as it now becomes my choice to severely restrict who I sell too, and under what circumstances

[Sleek]

Well when u posted this it kinda singled the person out, cause if u search your breed, it comes up with all the people who own it and it is easy to see who your talking about.

[Cosmosxx]

It isn't that when I'm giving you rats is it?

If you are talking about me, I hope you know that I imported those dogs as a starter pair with tokens I paid for with MY OWN hard earned RL money. We aren't all 12, and some of us can actually pay for tokens.

I didn't buy any of them from you, or indeed anybody.

So no I did not overbreed one of YOUR Filas.

Newsflash- When you create a breed on SBF, and DON'T make it AE you do not then own the patent.

As you made YOUR choice, and chose to make your creation ENDANGERED, it's then accessible to anyone with an abundance of tokens, rather than AE (since you seem to want those conditions imposed upon the breed)

In future I'd thank you NEVER to start a thread about me, and certainly not until you have your facts straight.

So restrict away to your hearts content sweetheart, because I owe you nothing.

Anyone else has an issue, speak up now.

If anyone has sold or given me an endangered/AE animal that I have "Overbred" please say now..... and I know a few respected players have trusted me with their animals....
My purchases through starter pairs however are my business, and no one else's..

[Drmchaser]

I don't want to start an argument here or anything but RZ you have 6 of them and Cosmosxx only has 4, so who's over breeding them?

[Bratterratt]

You know people, I think over breeding has been a problem for years now, and there is NOTHING that you or I can really do about it. If you don't want an animal bred by you over bred, you have two choices... 1. sterilize it (I've been finding myself doing that alot lately when people I don't really honestly trust want an endangered foal from my herd)... or 2. Sell it to a breeder that you know is responsible. Chances are, if you tell the person before hand that you only want the animal bred to replace, then they will only breed to replace. There are a few people on this game who will breed over, and over, and over again to get money. But all their really doing is making the animal common and easy to get a hold of... lowering it's price basically. I know how ya feel RZ and hopefully, this can be resolved quickly. My advice to you is, to send the player a message about your concerns, and go from there...

Bratterratt

[Cosmosxx]

[Bratterratt]

Well, if you sold the filla whole to just a random breeder, then I think RZ has a right to be upset...

Bratterratt

[Drmchaser]

She didn't sell them to a random breeder. Rusty has one and I have one and both of us are responsible breeders. The other two are at Cosmosxx's farm. I am not going to breed my Fila and I am sure that Rusty won't either. As far as I can see all 4 of these dogs are in safe hands.

[A. L. Aljan]

... and people wonder why I rarely play anymore...

:sigh:


~ Amanda @ Aljan

[Misty Glen]

RZ, I think you're overreacting. Cosmosxx has not overbred the animals they bought as a foundation pair. They have bred them, yes, but only twice, and sold them to responsible breeders. Most players would consider that behaviour to be well within the definition of responsible breeding.

Cosmosxx is well within their rights to purchase a foundation pair, breed it, and sell its offspring. It they then went on to breed dozens of offspring, that would certainly be considered overbreeding and would be frowned upon by a lot of players, but that hasn't happened, and neither do I consider it likely based on my knowledge of Cosmosxx as a player.

If you did not wish any players to own or breed your creation without your permission you should have made it AE. That's why that rarity comes with such an exclusive price tag: so the owner does have that level of control. You cannot expect to be able to have that level of control without paying for it.

[ChocolateGal]

Misty's right guys, but in my personal opinion, I think that RZ and Cosmosxx a both over reacting.

It's four animals guys, and that is really not many to worry about.

RZ, how many animals has she sold? 1.. one, satu, un, ONE! Come on guys, get the story strait. I fully trust Cosmosxx to keep animals.

But Cosmosxx, you did take it a bit much for what she was trying to say, even if it wasn't true. She wasn't telling you that she wanted an argument, but you did go a bit over the top. Not everyone is 12, your right, but you did get a bit angry...

[Cosmosxx]

Thanks everyone for their kind comments about me, and faith in me as a responsible player.

I apologise for being as angry as I was, and for a few of the comments I made towards RZ, and certainly didn't mean to offend anyone, it just hurt my feelings that someone thought that I abused their trust, and was overbreeding their creation, and I had a knee jerk reaction.

I sold 1 to Rusty, and gave one to Drmchaser, both of whom I am certain are among the most responsible players here, but I did not acquire this breed for profit.

I do understand RZ's concerns, but wished that she had simply messaged me privately, or asked around about me rather than airing it out publicly, and that's why I reacted badly to it.

So thank-you Drmchaser, Misty Glen, and Chocolategirl, for your kind words, you have all really cheered me up, and hopefully through time RZ can trust me too.

[mash]

[RZ]

I am sorry. I have been lying low thinking about this - not sure exactly what to say

I am not even sure how I realized there were more Filas out there - I just saw several more than i could account for and it bothered me -

I am trying to get my foot (leg?) out of my mouth


Cosmo, I am very sorry

[Cosmosxx]

No problem RZ, I'm sorry for getting a bit out of hand, and upset.

I promise I'm not abusing your creation.

Make up, and let's forget about it?

*Hugs*