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Should accounts be deleted after 100 days? Should AE's be allowed to be resurrected?
Yes on both Account Deletion and AE Resurrection
26%
 26%  [ 4 ]
Yes for Account Deletion, No on AE Resurrection
6%
 6%  [ 1 ]
No on Account Deletion, Yes on AE Resurrection
33%
 33%  [ 5 ]
No on both Account Deletion and AE Resurrection
26%
 26%  [ 4 ]
I have no opinion on either issue
6%
 6%  [ 1 ]
Total Votes : 15

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Mydnight



Joined: 04 Mar 2009
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 9:44 pm    Post subject: An Idea...Need Feedback Reply with quote

I have no clue if this is where to post this, but Mods feel free to move, lock, etc. if it isn't the right spot.

I have an idea. But I would like some feedback on it before going through the appropriate channels to see if it can (or even should) be done.

The problem:

One of the most frustrating things for me is going through the marketplace and seeing people with animals that are well over age limits, and owners that haven't examined their animals for 100, 400, or over 600 days. That's 4 months to over a year and a half of inactivity.
Some breeds are dying out because of people with inactive accounts. Some AE variations, colors, and details are no longer playable due to the account inactivity. That's particularly frustrating for people like me. Especially since I don't want to make another variation/color/detail that is incorrectly spelled just to resurrect that particular AE.

Possible Solutions:

1. Accounts delete after 100 days of inactivity
2. AE's that belong to deleted account owners are then allowed to be resurrected if you pay a set number of tokens (as in very expensive to resurrect, I was thinking like 4000 tokens, that's twice the number for making a new AE.)

I don't know how strong people's opinions are on SBF, but I do know that there are strong opinions out there about this. I would like to remind everyone to please be courteous. Thank you.
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Bezzella



Joined: 28 Nov 2006
Posts: 3638

PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 10:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I think the owners of the site could want to keep the accounts because it adds prestige to SBF. That is their personal thing and it doesn't affect us.

However, as far as 4000 tokens for resurrecting an AE, I would never do it. Why spend 4000 when you could use 2000 to create your own. Also, even if somebody did it, I would be mad that my AE was recreated when I wasn't told that this was possible.

So double veto I guess. However, I like where you are going with this.
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Mydnight



Joined: 04 Mar 2009
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 10:47 pm    Post subject: Response Reply with quote

Let's say I made an Leucistic sugar glider (which I have) and then quit SBF. Six months later, my animals have aged some but not enough to be beyond the age limits, my animals have had no care and someone wanted to create another Leucistic Sugar Glider.
I no longer play, and they had no way of contacting me. What would they do? Make another variation with the wrong spelling.

Not that I would quit without making sure someone carried on with my gliders, but I would rather see Leucistic (proper spelling) rather than All White with Black Eyes, Lucistic, or any of the other millions of spelling variations that could (and do) happen.

I am not talking about resurrecting AE's of accounts of people who still play! I am only talking about AE's of inactive (or deleted) accounts!

Now about the keeping of accounts, couldn't there just be a Account Total, Accounts Active, and Accounts Inactive list for the prestige of SBF instead of having any account ever made kept on the books, as it were.

I also had another idea, but I am not sure how people would react to this one. What about if animals, who are under the age limits, of deleted accounts go to an adoption agency, where folks would have the chance of adopting them?
Good Idea, Bad Idea?
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Kholran
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Joined: 28 Nov 2006
Posts: 784

PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 11:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My vote would be no and no.

Accounts are not deleted on ANY Orbis game, as it messes up the game database as well as things like animal bloodlines (if there are animals on the deleted accounts, they in turn get deleted, leaving gaps in the pedigree). Inactivity does not necessarily mean that someone never plans to return either. There are people who take an entire year's break from the game to deal with business/personal lives/whatever...it would be less than fair for them to come back and find that all of their cash, animals, custom variations, tokens, etc had been deleted.

As for the AE species, they belong to the person who created them. If said person wanted to sell them/give them to another player before leaving the game, that's their choice. If they don't want to do that, that's also their choice. Again, how do you determine when an account is truly 'inactive' and the owner has no intention of coming back? The long and short of it is that you can't know what someone else's intention is. The point of an AE is that it belongs ONLY to the person that created it...if Nef had intended for others to be able to get the creation, she would not have made it exclusive.
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argenttree



Joined: 06 Mar 2009
Posts: 15

PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 11:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i think its brilliant idea!!! top notch and why not in life does an animal not breed to preserve the species must this game that is to mimic life be exempt from this?
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Kholran
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Joined: 28 Nov 2006
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 9:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

argenttree wrote:
i think its brilliant idea!!! top notch and why not in life does an animal not breed to preserve the species must this game that is to mimic life be exempt from this?


This game mimics life? I guess I should tell my Naga and Werewolves and Vampires and Pegasus and Dragons (etc etc) that they all actually exist XD And that if I breed my Arabian horse in real life to a Shire, the result will be either an Arab or a Shire and not some mix of the two.

The joy of the game is that it is NOT like real life. In real life, you can't own 3,000 animals that range from mice to wild animals to mythological creatures. You can't breed two different "variations" and get a purebred that is either the mother's or father's breed. You can't dye your housepet and make it something it isn't. Common "variations" like Great Danes and Shetland ponies are not Endangered/Almost Extinct. This game is about as far from real life as you can get...I will stand by my previous statement that the person who creates the AE animal should remain the ONLY owner of that animal (unless of course they choose to sell them or the rights to them).
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koneko



Joined: 30 Dec 2008
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 4:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would hate it if somone could buy my AE just like that.
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argenttree



Joined: 06 Mar 2009
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 10:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i believe that it is implied that the player must not be playing anymore for it to be even considered
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Misty Glen



Joined: 01 Nov 2007
Posts: 1393

PostPosted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 2:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

argenttree wrote:
i believe that it is implied that the player must not be playing anymore for it to be even considered


i think the issue is that there's no way to determine that for sure, and even if there was, there's no way it can be easily implemented into the game code.

my vote is no on both counts, for precisely the reasons Kholran stated.
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Marlee



Joined: 20 Mar 2009
Posts: 5592

PostPosted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 7:20 pm    Post subject: Re: Response Reply with quote

Mydnight wrote:
Let's say I made an Leucistic sugar glider (which I have) and then quit SBF. Six months later, my animals have aged some but not enough to be beyond the age limits, my animals have had no care and someone wanted to create another Leucistic Sugar Glider.
I no longer play, and they had no way of contacting me. What would they do? Make another variation with the wrong spelling.

Not that I would quit without making sure someone carried on with my gliders, but I would rather see Leucistic (proper spelling) rather than All White with Black Eyes, Lucistic, or any of the other millions of spelling variations that could (and do) happen.

I am not talking about resurrecting AE's of accounts of people who still play! I am only talking about AE's of inactive (or deleted) accounts!

Now about the keeping of accounts, couldn't there just be a Account Total, Accounts Active, and Accounts Inactive list for the prestige of SBF instead of having any account ever made kept on the books, as it were.

I also had another idea, but I am not sure how people would react to this one. What about if animals, who are under the age limits, of deleted accounts go to an adoption agency, where folks would have the chance of adopting them?
Good Idea, Bad Idea?
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NeverwinterCC



Joined: 14 Apr 2009
Posts: 246

PostPosted: Mon May 04, 2009 6:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Okay, i know this is an old thread, but here is my opinion...


Instead of deleteing accounts and making all kinds of crazy codes and ressurecting AEs, i think the owners should keep their AE variations, have free pairs of them if they happen to return.

Also, in the fact of old animals, i think that the animals should disappear the moment they hit age. But.. instead of lurking until they hit exam never later to disappear, they should disappear right away and the player should be told once they hit 'exam'. This way, it doesn't clog up the marketplace, and the player still gets a notice they went to flordia. The accounts won't get deleted.. the animals won't ethier, they will go straight to florida, but they shouldn't get deleted. This way SBF keeps their prestiege, the owners of AE'S keep their breeds, and the aging animals don't clog up the message boards. (EDIT: What? Message boards? Marketplace, silly!)

I hopefully didn't do any bad with reviving this old topic..[/i]
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