ATTENTION ALL WHO ARE BUYING OUR VARIATION!

[Misty Glen]

[odinsdottir]

And at this point I bow out.

I am sorry if you felt harassed, I rarely interfered with sterile animals, only with whole ones. And now I confess I no longer care. Do as you wish with them... I won't be here to comment or "harass".

As for Amara, she made a choice to continuously and repeatedly disrespect what I had made. It was not the first time, nor was I the only person she did it to and no doubt, since she always returns, it wont be the last time. That is YOUR problem now....

I will release every animal I have... for I'm gone... If anyone needs to find me I'm on VP....

HUGZZZ to my friends... and good luck.

odinsdottir

[Sleek]

did you really release all your animals? Bye I will miss you


*gives cookies*

[odinsdottir]

There will be very few animals left on my farm as of tomorrow night my time... and they will be animals where the person I bought or traded it from has a return clause on it... EVERYTHING else will be gone.

No I will not be doing any last minute trades, nor gifting my creations around. I will however have distributed my tokens and my money as best I can to those who I feel will benefit most.

odinsdottir

[Sleek]

okay at least they are going to peopel who will benefit.

[Goku-san]

Unique play styles, such as playing however they wish with their person(s), horses or dogs and with in the rules, are allowed. An example to explain; if you sell a horse/dog with a special color to someone, the new owner has all rights to do as they wish with that horse, including breeding, training, and eventing. However this may be considered as griefing, and it is not encouraged for ones own reputation.

Basically what it means is you revoke all rights to the animal once you sell it or it's an animal that can be rescued or bought with tokens. Once it leaves your hands it is no longer your responsibility and the new owner may do as they wish with the animal. If you are concerned on how people will use your animal then screen your buyers and set up private sales.

Also, just because you have the money to buy tokens does not mean you are entitled to control how the game is played. In the end all the money does is keep the site running and possibly pay the staff of the game. All players whether they paid real money or not are entitled to enjoy the game as they see fit.

What I see happening here is a form of harrassment. Harrassment is against the rules which can result in you being banned.

So if someone doesn't follow your rules there is nothing you can do about it. They are within their rights to do as they wish and are not breaking any of the rules as stated by Orbis' TOS and Player Policies.

Yes, I have spent money on this game and have created animals. People have bought the ones that can be bought with tokens. I have sold my creations to others. If they want to breed it, event it, or sell it that is their choice. The whole point to this game is collecting animals. Which means you have to buy them from other players or with tokens. I think a lot of people have lost sight as to what this game is all about and seem to only want to make money, be rich, and control the market. :/

[Kholran]

Yes, they are well within their rights to buy someone else's variation and breed it into worthlessness. However it shows a severe lack of respect for the person who originally made the variation/colour. If you want to take YOUR OWN made variation and breed 100 of them and put a different colour on each one and sell them off and put them up for stud, then that's great. Doing it to someone else's creation, IMO, is a pretty inconsiderate thing to do. Because that decreases the value not only of someone else's money (they pay $6 give or take, you get it for $1.50), but then say, that person decides to hold an auction. Instead of there being maybe 5-10 of the variation in game, there's 110, and they're available for sale/stud, and they're whole. Where the original maker might have gotten 100 million for one before, now they're lucky to make 30 million from it. But I guess in this day and age, it's a "me me me" society, and if it hurts someone else, so what. Just because you CAN do whatever you want doesn't mean you SHOULD.

[Tiger_lily]

part of the problem is in trying to collect horses i personally have found it almost impossible unless i buy them with tokens.

i know many other GOOD people who dont have the money to purchase them with tokens are discouraged because you CANT buy them even from the creater at times because the creater has decided that though the and is ENDANGERED and free to be purchased by TOKENS. that anyone who does buy them and tries to trade it to ANYONE then they are harassed and dragged through the dirt. i am not talking about selling 5, 10, or 20 animals i am saying one of a certain breed.

the following are two of the breeds that i have foundation pairs to and have been told NOT to sell or trade since they have not been release to the public.

Ardennes-13 (creater owns 6 of them.oldest horse is 18 yrs)
Belgian-7 (creater owns 4 of them.oldest horse is 18 yrs)

i could go on and on about other breeds, but since i dont have the time i cant.

i understand that it is the right thing to do to let the creaters make a profit from their investment and to keep the numbers down, but they over step their rights when they refuse to let others trade between friends or anything since they dont want anyone else to have the ENDANGERED breed they created.

[Bezzella]

I personally believe that this game is just a game. It is sad that people who are generally mature can go crazy, quit, and fight over a game that is for fun. Yes, the game is about creation and such, but if you are going to be so unhappy when others would like to share in the creation, it is quite rediculous. Games are for fun. This is why I give away play money, sell tokens, and breed my animals freely. I think that perhaps letting the game be less serious would overall make it much more enjoyable.

This is why I quit before. It sickens me to see people destroy friendships with bickering over imaginary animals. Any fighting over the internet is generally something that doesn't need to be fought over. I think this topic was not a good idea to make, and it was probably made in a rush of anger. We all get mad sometimes and especially on bad days. When it's not such a great day, it is easy to log in and vent through a source like this.

Now comes the part of respect. Most people spend real money on their creations. And beyond this, hours of brainstorming and buying tokens from others. It is rude to breed endlessly, especially if the owner contacts you and asks you what you want. If you want your variation to be kept rare, just politely PM the buyer. I think it is rather absurd to go around asking the owner of every animal before you breed them. But you should respect the owner's wishes. Not go around squandering your time begging them for rights that are already yours when you bought the animal. But, if somebody directly tells you they'd appreciate it if you only bred the animal once, I think that is a fair request. If it's an AE or endangered creation, it would be rude to disrespect somebody's wishes if they directly asked you otherwise.

On the part of a creator, you should respect the person who purchased your animal. Don't make rediculous respects like never breeding it. If you are polite and respectful, you can probably get much better results than if you just scream at them. Don't use caps, don't enlarge, bold, or italicize things that make it seem like you're angry. Try and realize that they paid for this creation fairly and according to the rules of the game. Your rules of the game don't exist and cannot be enforced so if they follow them it is a fantastic favor and show of kindness. They could make tons of money and you are asking them to hold back.

Wow. That was quite a ramble. :] Please, guys, be peaceful.

<3 Bezzella

[Fawn]

[Goku-san]

[Bratterratt]

[Kholran]

[Goku-san]

[Fawn]