My dog is leaving!

[Charlie1]

Can everyone stop bagging on cutepony? It's obvious she does want the best for her dog. But I do say I don't think you'd be better off getting the puppy as the same thing may happen again. It can be hard to find another job and you have to think about yourself and family before spending your time on a puppy. Puppies need TONS of attention which you might not be able to give. But I do wish you the best and I know you do care about Max.

[shadow_spinner]

Honestly people, give her a break.

You know what people used to do when their dogs got to sick for them to care for? Shoot them. Unwanted kittens were drowned, and horses that were lame for too long were sold or shot. They were working animals. The people took care of them the best they could, but they could only go so far. If the owner went hungry, the dog went hungry. If the owner couldn't afford blankets, you better believe that their horse wasn't getting a fancy embroidered winter rug.

But you know what? I honestly believe that many of these people were better owners that some people today. Now, I know that some weren't, but let's not rule out the group for the exception, eh? But what I'm saying is, today, if a horse gets colic, what do their owners do? Call the vet. Give them a shot of medicine. Do surgery. Put the horse down. Whatever.
Now, what would owners be doing 200 years ago?
Or not even 200 years ago, try 100, or 50, even.
They'd be out there at 3:00 AM handwalking their horses until they got better.

Do you see what I'm saying? Now I'm not saying that people nowadays don't love their animals, or whatever, or that there aren't exceptions to the rules, but people always want an instant fix.
Your horse is lame? Give him a shot of Legend, or stuff him up with bute.
Your cat is sick? Take him to the vet and pay them whatever the heck they want to fix him.
Your dog is poorply-behaved? It doesn't matter, spoil him rotten and make the problem worse.

I'm just saying that I'd rather see an owner that seriously cares for her pet's wellfare and who finds a wonderful home for their pet than a rich person who gets a dog and can just afford to pay for whatever problems come their way.

And last I checked, it was none of anyone's buisiness. Cutepony couldn't afford ridiculously-priced surgery. So she found a new home for her pet. She didn't just drop him off at the shelter. She made sure that the new owners will do what is necessary to make him comfortable. She decided to get a new pet. What do you care? If she was taking your dog away, I could see you getting into a fuss. But she's not. And it's ridiculous to make a girl cry over the sake of arguing an opinion of morality that, truthfully, you can't even prove is correct or not.

Good luck with your new dog, hun.

[Kholran]

[mash]

THANK YOU!!

Kholran I have been ITCHING to say exactly those things, but didn't want to aggrivate the situation. So thanks.

[Tanitsja]

it all comes down to which society you been raised in and thus what you have ended up considering good animal welfare

i very much disagree with some of the descisions i see made by rescues and shelters on animal planet sometimes, the idea behind them is good, but that dont defend all of what they do in my mind...ie puting down dogs who are just minorly agressive instead of spending some money and manpower on geting them into good homes where they could been retrained to perfectly "safe" dogs, while in other cases they have no issues wasting money on prolonging the pains of animals with minimum chanse at surviving, instead of puting them down and leting the poor creatures sleep in peace without pains (sometimes i am enraged inside of the inhumainty in sertaint cases)

which just goes to show that we all grown up with different views on mathers, we weigh things differently in our mind

and in this case this dog is going to live by owners descisions, hence i think cutepony's parent made the rigth descision since they unfortunatly lacked insurance at a bad timing, i belive she pointed out that by the time they got a new dog they would get insurance again (thats a poor relif in the situation though as they dont have it NOW, which is the point of it all)


No one can descide when nature set in, you just have to do the best of the situation when it comes your way, had this happened a few months later or earlier they likely could by the sound aford the operation. In the situation they did as best they could. Some may disagree, but the fact is we all are different and the best we can aim for in these cases is agreeing to disagree.

[cutepony]

we did have insurins but the factory closed!

[LHUhannah]

cutepony,

I remember when my dad lost his job suddenly when his company was bought out secretly. It sucked! All the hopes, dreams and most of all the sense of security that I had vanished. I remember at one point we went from my dad making over 100k a year to only having $11 in the bank account and having to go to the food bank. We ever had to take my dogs to a shelter because we could barely feed ourselves, let alone 3 dogs. I'm glad your dad was able to find a new job, and I wish you all the best in this tough and scary time.

I have been in a similar situation, I had a miniature poodle who was pregnant and the vet said she was going to need to have a C-Section because of her small size. Well my family did not have the money, but my neighbor, who had been eyeing my dog for a while, said that if he could have her and all the puppies from her that he would take her in and pay for all her surgery. Well he ended up having to pay a little over $6,000, because of a "complication" during the C-section on a miniature poodle.

All that being said, Kudos to your dad for being able to find somewhere that will be able to care for Max in his time of need. I know it must be hard for you to let go of this family member and not know exactly how his life will be from now on. I also think that for a girl of 13 you are handling this situation and all the ridicule for it very well.

[White Frost]

Cutepony all I have to say is you do have a say I am 14 and when my horse was sick last year(when I was 13) I did research and found options that made it so he got better. You could do that with Max there is SOO many options with arthritis I work at an Animal hospital and see many animals come through with it and my own 10 year old dog has it non have required surgery because there are many different options to choose from. I am not saying what your doing is wrong and I am not saying its right I just want to let you know even though you have tried many things there is a lot more out there then what some vets will tell you. I know its hard having an animal taken away I just lost my horse that I had for only 3 months so I am sorry you are losing your dog. If you need any help finding info(If you want to do it) and if you just need anything PM me I am on quite a bit and will answer asap.

[Des_and_Tay]

Cutepony is obviously distressed over the leaving of her dog.
It doesn't sound like she has much choice in the matter, either.
I understand from both sides' perspectives, and agree with both Cutepony and Kholran.
But I just think it kind of seems to be making the situation worse.

[American]

[Tanitsja]

i think they are geting a new dog when they have insurance, and yes it sounds like the dog is going to a new home with new owners...not another shelter

which means it makes perfect sence

just cause not all of us would have chosen the same soloution, as long as the animal aint going to go hurting, there is no wrong soloution, the only wrong soloution would be leting the animal suffer due lack of money, ie waiting months till they where back on insurance and could get the operation

And hopefully while its no fun to do this, knowing your dog is fine, and then going to visit it seeing it setle in and be happy will help you some *s* its never easy, but time makes things easier specialy when you can get afirmatives that your loved ones are fine...so i hope it all works out well...and the operation goes well without any complications

[shadow_spinner]

OK, it seems like what I said is being a little misinterpreted. I didn't mean that bringing an animal to the vet was the "quick fix" and the "wrong thing to do," that example with the sick cat shouldn't have been in there.

What I was really trying to get to is the fact that it's the heart that counts. Tanitsja said it more wonderfully that I could have, I think I was too sloppy with my wording when I wrote that. I think it's wonderful that people have vets who can fix things today that years ago would have meant death. Hey, 50 years ago the colic survival rate was less than 20%. Now? Well, I don't know the exact numbers, but I'm told it's near 80% (don't quote me on that).

I was also a little angry because this arouses a pretty personal matter to me; there was an abuse case of a foal where I used to live where the owners told the world a very rosy story about how they had saved the foal from death, but in reality they were too lazy to call the vet and the foal ended up dying for no reason. It makes me very, very mad when someone starts to either call someone else right or wrong in these kind of things without having the complete story; I know how easy it is for things to come across very differently from the truth. So even with little things like this, it tends to get me very... hot-headed, shall we say. But I shouldn't have let my emotions get the best of me.

All I was trying to say was I'd rather see cutepony do this for her old dog than see those people do that to that foal; even though their story sounded nice and happy, they didn't care for the foal when it seems to me cutepony cares very much for her dog. It seems in situations like these that it is the heart that counts.

[Lilac]

I dunno. I'm on the fence with this. Mainly, because I have experience.

Last year(april) I adopted my first ever dog. Auzzy. A 1 1/2 year old aussie/wpg. Well, after about a week, he started behaving "bad". Mouthing, random "accidents" after we just took him out. We actually looked for a obedience school for him about 3 days in. But we didn't go until the first month in. He improved a bit.. But.. still. Anyway.. He got worse as the months went by. Mouthing got to nipping. He actually broke skin at times. He was having accidents all over the house(yes, he was neutered and he went out every 2 hours at least) So, we called around. Got a professional involved.

She was not cheap. 90 bucks an hour. Gave us awesome tips and advice.

Lost story short, he started being aggressive completely unprovoked. Ended up biting my in the cheek/chin. He was surrendered the the SPCA and put down.

Do I wish I still had him? Heck yeah. He was my best friend. But I also thought it wasn't his fault. Something was wrong with him. He could be so strange sometimes. He'd be playful one minute, the next, cowering in a corner on his back urinating submissively. The fact was, we couldn't AFFORD any tests and treatment.

We called the trainers, the behaviorist we'd been in contact with since adopting him, the vet, anyone, to find out ideas or something. If I could have afforded it, I'd have them do the tests. See if he had brain damage or something. But.. We couldn't afford it. And besides.. there weren't signs anyway. AND we got a letter from the workers there, telling us how thankful they were about all the work we put into him.

Yes, I couldn't afford to take care of him to that extent. There weren't SIGNS. Now, in the case of cutepony, there are signs. And there is a chance. So, instead of dumping her dog at a shelter, she's giving him to a home that can afford it. And will do it.

I got my dog Bella two months after Auzzy got surrendered. She was 5 years old. And her owners left her at the boarding kennel, and never came back. We got her? What did she have? Medical problems. She had an infection on her belly from when her stitches didn't come out from spaying. If after medicine they didn't heal, she'd need surgury.
She had a burn on her shoulder from a heating pad. She had medication for that.
She also had severe tartar and gingivitis. She would need anesthesia and such to get it cleaned up.


All in all, her belly cleared up, the burn is just skin with no hair, and her teeth are clean. I could afford it, no? I just couldn't afford that darn expensive thing for Auzzy at the time.

Timing can be great, or a disaster.